The more I read about lifestyle design and think about how it applies to retirement, the more I realise that my paradigm on what constitutes retirement has fundamentally changed.
Previously, I used to think like what many of us did, that retirement was an age and it was not to work. But increasingly, my own research and reading of books such as Tim Ferriss’ “The Five Hour Workweek” and thinking about the day-to-day trends we see in Singapore has led me to re-evaluate what it means to retire when I advance another 20 years in life from today.
Retirement is Not an Age
The CPF system and the traditonal life of study-work-retire is under pressure. First of all, increasing life expectancy sees us living longer and hence needing to fund our living over a longer period of time. Secondly, the concept of lifelong employment and having a job for life is under threat from today’s volatile world. Thirdly, research has shown that mentally we degenerate if we do not keep ourselves active mentally and physically after we transit from a full-time career to a post-career lifestyle of not going to a routine of working from 8.30 AM to 6.00 PM Mondays to Fridays.
I see retirement as more a lifestyle design issue in that one needs to plan for how one can live on possibly reduced cash flows from a full-time job and transit more into a lifestyle dependent on less certain cash flows supplemented with some freelance type of work and passive income from CPF or other sources.
Continuing Cashflows Post Career
To continue to thrive post-career when one is close to the “official” retirement age of 62 (will probably be 67 by the time I hit that age bracket), one needs to plan for cashflows or a source of income then. Our CPF will only allow us a very subsistence type of living if we have minimum sum. Many will barely have it as most of our CPF is parked in our homes. Thus, I realise that one of the paradigm shifts that occurred for me was to be open to monetising my home through renting it out.
Now if I rent out my home, where am I going to stay? I’ll address that part in the later part of this article.
The other part of having cashflows is to have some useful and marketable skill that can translate into an income source. I believe I can do consultancy and training in the areas of public speaking, internal audit and fraud as well as general softskills type of “management” training. What I am doing now to build up those skillsets are to continue with my toastmasters activities, to deliver training in my current job as a value-add to my organisation and to continue to read widely in these areas to beef up the knowledge part. The toastmastering and actual conduct of training courses (beyond) my job scopeĀ and speaking at conferences and seminars help me put into practise those skills needed in the future.
Living in a Lower Cost Environment
It is already happening. The Government has allowed us to use our Medisave in lower cost countries’ medical facilities. Taking the next logical step in the lifestyle design equation, why not transplant ourselves into a lower cost ASEAN country? This can work because we can monetise our main asset – our homes by renting them out for income, and then using that income to live more cheaply in a lower cost country. My current target is Thailand because it is quite big and you can find interesting locations to retire.
The catch is language. I have enrolled in a part-time (evening) conversational Thai course and intend to learn written Thai. I give myself 20 years to get fluent in the language and I am starting NOW even though I can actually pick it up later but I think planning ahead by taking the actions now will put me in a much stronger position to do so later.
By learning Thai now, I also can access more of Thailand’s culture and lifestyle as a tourist and slowly work up to be a retirement resident there in the future. Again, it gives me 20 or so years to get myself immersed into Thai culture and living there.
I am also planning to get my class 2B licence so as to learn how to ride a motorcycle. Getting around is not a big problem if you can drive or ride a motorbike. Given the economies and practicalities of getting around by bike in our neighbouring ASEAN countries, I realise learning to ride a bike would be a useful lifeskill going forward.
I feel excited about this plan because I think there are many direct and indirect spin offs from executing it. The skills such as speaking Thai and riding a bike will come in useful even in my life now as I can travel to more locations within Thailand as a tourist. Having a class 2B licence now will also make transportation easier now as my current home and workplace takes 2 buses to get to but would probably take me 10-15 minutes riding time depending on traffic condition. Hence, riding a motorcycle makes a lot of sense as my spouse takes the car on most days.
Once I learn Thai, I can shift my residence to Thailand and probably live off the rental of my home. I can supplement my income by teaching Thais English or to do training in Singapore in the areas of my professional interest.
Have you seriously considered your post-career plans?
Does it involve a radical move to a lower cost country?
Share with Panzer in the comments section.
Be well and prosper.
La papillion says:
Hey PG,
Good to see you posting on retirement. You really set a great example planning ahead for your own retirement, even gng to the extent of learning thai to retire there. Amazing!
Do share more of your insights on retirement
Phil says:
Hi Panzer
Recently I saw a book about living in Thailand in the library, it has all the information on where to live, what to do etc. I forgotten the title but it is very useful for someone like you who plan to move to Thailand. If you don’t mind, can you email me where are you taking your Thai lesson, the cost and what do you think of the teacher as I am also thinking of taking up Thai. Thanks much.
Panzer says:
Hi LP
Thanks for your words of encouragement. I am giving myself the next 5-10 years to actively prepare the ground to have that option of retiring in Thailand.
Language skills take time to build so might as well start to invest now to reap the dividends later.
Also, the more I think about it, the more I believe monetising your property by renting it out and living in a lower cost country is the way to go given that internet allows us to still keep in touch across geographical distances.
Will update my blog with my experiences as I go along, may write an ebook on retiring in Thailand once I have sufficient resources…hahaha…
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La papillion says:
Hi PG,
Great! Looking forward to your ebook on retirement in thailand
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Panzer says:
Hi Phil
Will email you the language school I’m taking the conversational Thai lessons.
Feedback on teacher will come after 30 July which is the first lesson!
sa wat dee krup!
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dooy says:
hi panzer,
why thailand? the politics there is not good. why don’t you consider vietnam or indonesia since they are cheaper than thailand and in their places have many interesting and beautiful places
bummy says:
Hi PG,
You have given this some detailed thought and put a structure to it. I have also considered the option of retiring in thailand, cost and safety is attractive but as a non local it is really hard to get into their culture. I tried learning the language with little success, somehow language is not my forte.
i have met europeans who rented out their property in their home country and live in thailand and do some part time work. so your idea is wholly sound.
panzer says:
Hi dooy
Thailand is a big place. You can still live in your own space if you don’t get involved in the politics there. Vietnam and Indonesia are also possible but currently I’m focussing on Thailand first because I happened to be exposed to the language and found it interesting to pick up and also it’s a useful place to learn more about as a tourist with cheap air-tickets to Bangkok etc. and plenty of places to explore. I don’t discount other ASEAN countries but am exploring Meuang Thai first. Sa wat di khrab!
panzer says:
Hi bummy
Thanks for your comment. I’ve also heard from my colleagues who met Singaporean retirees who are happily settled in Thailand as well so a number of Singaporeans are already doing it.
I am taking one step at a time. Language is the first step and can be a lifelong pursuit. Visiting parts of Thailand is the second part to find out more as a tourist and as a potential retiree. Must do homework first and I give myself the next 10 years to do my homework
Jerawan Slagle says:
Hi,
I happened to stumble to your blog page when I’m writing a blog about internet marketing job or internet marketing entrepreneur for Thai people. I’m an American-Thai who’s lived in the states since my early 20′s (1969). I read through your whole story and admire your courage and determination to retire in Thailand. I also used to be a Thai language teacher after I graduated from high school. It was fun teaching language to foreigners at that time. Also thinking about retirement fund, now I’m starting an internet marketing entrepreneur and try to help other Thais to get more exposed to this opportunity for a better life for the love of my origin country. I wish you the best of luck and success on your plan. Take care!
PS. If you have any questions or need help of some kind about Thailand, pls feel free to drop me a note.
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luxury Condos Bangkok says:
Hello, Great blog post
nh1870 says:
Hi,
I am a Singaporean living permanently in Pattaya. If you want to retire in Thailand, your income generated from the renting out of your Singapore property might not be enough if you are going to stay in Bangkok.
Thai laws are very strict regarding foreigners staying permanently in Thailand, especially those working here. This is to protect the livihood of Thai citizen. However, in Pattya, the number of foreigners almost outnumber the Thais, especially during the high season.
There are many ways to reside permanently in Thailand. Almost all will cost money.
1. Work Permit – A Thai company hires you to work in Thailand
2. Work Permit – Set up a company with a share not more than 50%. The other 50% and more will have to be a Thai citizen. Usually 49% Foreigner and 51% Thai.
3. Retirement Visa – Above 50 and need to have THB 800,000 in bank account
4. Marriage Visa – You marry a Thai citizen
5. ED-Visa – You can obtain student VISA for up to 10 years.
Hope these helps.
nh1870 says:
However… Moving to Pattaya is the best choice I made in my life. Life is less stressful. The Thai people, majority who are Buddhist are generally very fun and kind.
You do not need a motorcycle license to ride a bike. It is good to have one in case if you get into an accident. I have been riding a bike for years without a license. For motorcar, yes, you will need a driving license. You can easily obtain a Thai driving license if you have a International Driving Permit (IDP), provide you are in Thailand on Non-Immigration Visa, which is the type of Visa I listed in my previous post.
The only thing I miss about Singapore is the hawker food.
Panzer says:
Dear nh1870
Thanks for your insightful comment.
The retirement visa sounds achievable as it’s about $34,000 SGD to get one. Though the 50 year old requirement is also realistic
BTW, have you learnt to speak Thai by now?
Khun puut pa sar Thai, dai-mai?
Great to hear that you are having a less stressful life in Pattaya and be well and prosper!
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Panzer says:
Hi Jerawan
Sorry for the late reply but thanks for your offer of help.
All the best for your internet marketing endeavours!
Be well and prosper.
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Redsunz says:
Hi Panzer, nh1870
Don’t mind me asking how old are you both? I’m actually also planning to shift over to thailand next year. Going to Pattaya next week to look for house and school for my 4yrs old girl. nl1870, where you currently staying now? Any recommendation on any cheap and good new townhouse development? Nevertheless Its take alot of courage to actually give up life here in singapore to move over to thailand. Most likely i will start a small food business there.
If you two don’t mind can add me in facebook. We can chit-chat there.
isaac79@gmail.com
panzer says:
Dear Redsunz
I don’t mind. I’m 39 now. Will be 40 soon and coming to the big FOUR ZERO makes me more philosophical about life.
Interesting to see that you are moving over to Pattaya especially with a young child.
I heard that the Singaporean community is growing there and nh1870 himself is already there.
I wish you all the best in your move there.
Chok dee maak, sa wat di khrap.
Maverick says:
After seeing your blog, I think Singapore is really a 1st world country like the western ones. They also need to retire in other 3rd world countries. Quite sad though, considering you have serve NS and when you are old you cannot even stay in your own country.